The following question was posed:
I admit I don't know much about Struts, but I am wondering whether it's a bit "heavy weight" (for lack of a better word) for a small system (i.e., in terms of how rapidly you can do development in it) and/or whether there's a big learning curve involved in coming up to speed with it. Got any thoughts or experience you can relate that might alleviate those concerns?
It's hard for me to be completely unbiased in answering that, because I am already intimate with Struts. But, I'll try...
There is definitely a "tipping point" below which you may not want to invest the time into Struts. Like so many other things in our chosen art, where exactly that point lies depends in large part on the person/people doing the work and the nature of the relationship you/they have with the Goal Donors and Gold Owners (tm).
I would say that the point where learning and using Struts becomes worth it is likely lower than some people think/say it is. It is not as heavy as I've seen/heard some people say. And for apps with simple needs, it is simpler to use than for apps that have complex needs. IOW, in some ways simpler apps don't need as much design, maintainability, cleanliness, etc (ie, the things Struts brings you to); however, in other ways simpler apps mean less need for the more advanced Struts stuff that makes learning/using it more burdensome. Does that make sense, because it's Friday and I've had one of those weeks...?
Bottom line, if you need a small app that is low-volume, only a few pages, and pretty much will never need sophisticated logic (besides, for example providing CRUD for a simple data model), well then Struts can be too much. But I see it like buying some big-ticket power tool for your garage or shed: yes it is difficult to justify the cost and storage required to get one just to cut a few 2x4s for that small project. But once you've made the investment to have one, you can use it again and again for both small projects and large ones that come up. And the small ones become trivial and the large ones become a lot easier.
When I said "I will never do a web app with plain old servlets+JSP," I should have made it clear where my "tipping point" is - perhaps 5 pages with simple DB calls and no "business logic." Because, yes, even I wouldn't use it to, for example, make a utility app that does soemthing small like store my contacts list in a DB and give web access to them. I least I don't think I would...you know, now that I think about it, I probably would, because with Struts and its rich set of taglibs I can crank out a couple of JSPs and Action classes that do that kind of thing just as easily as if I tried to use straight servlets and/or JSP and scriptlet - And since scriptlet makes me want to throw up, I'd choose the Struts/taglibs approach if for no other reason than to hold my lunch :-)
I recently introduced Struts to the team I work on for use on a new project (re-write of an existing atrocious web app). The 3-4 people I'm working with on the project, none of them had any experience at all with Struts, although they each had worked on J2EE-based web apps. With my past experience to guide us, we have been able to get up and running in a pretty good amount of time, and that includes adopting Tiles (which I had not used before) and the latest Struts version (1.2.x - I had only used 1.0 before). Everyone, including the page design/HTML "guy" were able to pick it up pretty readily, with me providing abbreviated insight that is proably more efficient than having to scour all the documentation and mailing lists. It has gone very well so far, and now we can cank out new functionality with realitve ease.
The moral of that story is that having someone along for the ride who has done Struts before is probably a big advantage. I am not claiming to be anything special as a mentor or guide or teacher - it's just that having past experience, on the team, close at hand, made a noticable difference. My teammates have said that repeatedly over the past 4-6 weeks.
Of course, I am a "framework" guy - I enjoy using well-desinged ones, I enjoy trying to extract them from my own work - so I'm probably naturally inclined towards things like Struts that are nicely abstract and pluggable. But I'll tell you, in the past year I've also had to work on a plain servlets+JSP (with lots of scriptlet - YUCK!) application, and I was neither as happy nor as productive as I am on this new one where Struts is the Path of the Beam.